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Does It Ever End?

Bear with me people. The first part of this post is MIL related. So, you may or may not remember our relationship with my MIL is shaky at best. Some of it is our fault and some of it is hers. We’re in a place right now where, she never calls the house to talk […]

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Joan - November 12, 2008 - 8:59 pm

Does it ever end? Probably not. It’s not you though it is directed at you. She doesn’t appear to be a happy person.
As far as Obama, change will not happen right away. As you know I voted for him. My main reason was sort of a gamble probably irresponsible. I feel things are in such bad shape we need someone so different from W to lead our country.

whimsigal - November 12, 2008 - 9:10 pm

Joan, as far as Obama goes, I feel the same way. We do need something different than what Bush had to offer. I think overall Obama will probably be a good thing for us. One party can’t run the country forever, ya know? I’m just selfishly worrying about homeschooling because it’s so close to my heart.

Regarding my MIL, I think you’re probably right and I hadn’t really considered it from that perspective before. Thank you for offering that point of view!

By the way, I believe we were supposed to meet for lunch…again. LOL Are we going to do it?

Carri - November 13, 2008 - 8:29 am

Sorry about the MIL crap all over again. Ugg…

I understand your fear about how the democrats will affect home education. The democrats position on education bothers me quite a bit too. But I do think that HSLDA is in the fear mongering business a bit. I mean seriously, that’s how they make their money. The NEA’s position is a bit extreme and I really don’t see things advancing quite that far.

As you know, I did vote for Obama because I feel confident that he is more interested in balance and representing the whole of America, not just a select few. I think, and this is just my guess, that the emails you are getting are just the standby answers for educational questions that the democratic party just sends to everyone. Maybe there isn’t an answer concerning homeschooling because regulating us isn’t a real priority right now.

I also think that if any politician tries to pass very restrictive laws concerning homeschooling you will see droves of homeschoolers coming out of the woodwork to protect our right to raise our children as we see fit. I think it will be pretty close to the droves of folks out in Chicago on election night. We are everywhere. We are diverse. And I don’t think we are afraid anymore to make our presence known.

mamak - November 13, 2008 - 10:52 am

I think there will always be an uncomfortable vibe with the MIL. She is really just hurting herself. The boys will move on and be closer with your parents.It’s sad, and confusing with your boys. But I don’t see how anybody but herself can fix this.
As far as Obama and democrats, so many bigger fish to fry…They can’t really do too much as well, as it is really a state matter. Which is why Ct is so lax and our neighbor, NY, is so restrictive. So, I am not worried more than normal. But in all honesty, I would probably put my kids in a democratic free school and stop unschooling, if it got so restrictive, than live under republican policies. I mean I could not vote for republicans for the sole stance they have on homeschooling.I’m not sure if I got my point out, if you need me to give more info, I can!-K

whimsigal - November 13, 2008 - 11:29 am

Carri, you’re right about the HSLDA. I consider them to be emotional terrorists almost. The only reason I quoted that message is because they had the same experience I did in regards to the homeschooling issue and the Obama campaign.

I hate only having two parties to choose from because neither one of them represent me. I want to choose people, not a party. I don’t like the Democrat’s platform and I don’t like the Republican platform which forces people like me to either vote for Ralph Nader, or vote for the issues close to my heart which is what I did this go round. I wish Ron Paul had been able to hang in there because a lot of what he had to say resonated with me.

K- What do you mean by democratic free school? Are you referring to public school? I would rather go to jail before doing that. Perhaps the public schools where you live are good, I don’t know. You’re lucky to be in CT where things are so lax. I guess my fear about homeschooling is not unlike the feminists fear about Roe V. Wade being overturned. KWIM? I think somewhere inside I *know* that nothing is going to change with homeschooling. It is just a little thing inside my head and I was putting it out there. I’m so glad you all came here and shared your points of view! It’s nice to be able to talk about things like this without people being judgmental or holier than thou about it.

You guys rock!

mamak - November 13, 2008 - 11:57 am

Evie-
Oh hell no! No public school for us. It’s private, it’s like this-
http://frogcreek.blogspot.com/2008/09/look.html

I don’t think I would have to do this, but IF homeschooling got so restrictive…. However, I think we will be fine!-K

mamak - November 13, 2008 - 12:00 pm

Crud, I don’t think my response went through. if you get a double post, delete one.
No!! Not public school, we too would flee to Canada or Turkey or something!
I was referring to this:
http://frogcreek.blogspot.com/2008/09/look.html

And only as a last resort!-K

He uttered the dreaded words today

No, not shit, or damn, or hell. Those words I can take. No, today Ryan said, “I want to go to school, Momma.” Of course, my first instinct is to cry because I must be doing something wrong for him to want to leave me and go to that place but then, a couple of […]

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Laura - June 26, 2008 - 10:22 pm

I think you handled it well!

I remember once Brady said he might be missing out on things at school. We talked about how when you make a choice to do something, there’s always somthing else you miss out on. So you choose the one you want most. When he realized all the homeschooling things he’d miss out on by going to school, he decided against it.

Cate - June 27, 2008 - 2:02 am

Hi there Evie! Welcome to WordPress, I’m just “next door”!

I also think you handled things well with your boy. “Structure” is not always a dirty word. It doesn’t have to stifle creativity or spontanaity if applied with a bit of wisdom, and not allowed to become “rules”.

Enjoy this new and interesting part of your homeschooling journey!

Cheers from cold, wet Auckland,
Cate

Kim - June 27, 2008 - 5:06 pm

My daughter likes a more structured day as well. It floats her boat, and she likes to be busy. Remember you are the facilitator, follow his lead. He said he wants it like this, so try it! He may change again. Marlin is always structure for a month, off for a month, and then needing it again. I just follow! Good job!-Kim

Joan - June 27, 2008 - 9:11 pm

I think it is healthy for him to ask about school. Wouldn’t you rather Ryan discuss it with you than keeping the idea to himself? It’s normal for kids to question why things are being done and the alternatives.
My son was cracking on my older mini van. I told him I could go to work full time and we could get a lot of nice things. He looked very happy until I went on to say if that was the case I’m not sure he could get to football practice each morning this summer and he would have to watch his sister at home during the day.
Yes, you did well with that issue.

allyall - June 27, 2008 - 9:58 pm

You didn’t respond negatively, you didn’t say “that’s not gonna happen bub”, you looked and listened for his concerns and addressed the choices and possibilities. Sounds like it went pretty well. With all the school propaganda in the TV and books available to kids, it is gonna happen. Its a great time to discuss choices and options and it sounds like he wants structure for a while.

whimsigal - June 27, 2008 - 10:11 pm

Joan,

I certainly didn’t meant to imply that I was unhappy with ryan talking to me about school. I was, very poorly apparently, trying to be a little tongue in cheek when I said I wanted to cry at the question. I’m absolutely glad he asked about it and hope he continues to do so with other issues in his life!

Thanks for thinking I did well with it! :)

thanks to Laura, Cate, and Kim, too!! You guys all had really great responses as well!!

evie

Chrissy - June 30, 2008 - 10:36 pm

I think that you did great! My oldest asked to go to school once, he wanted to eat lunch out of a lunch box. So we bought him one when they went on clearance. We used it for all of our field trips and on days that we just wanted to have a picnic. He loved it.

Keep up the good work!!

childsplay - July 1, 2008 - 2:38 am

You did great!

Naturalist remembers school and doesn’t ever ask to go back. But Golfer doesn’t remember and every 6 months or so he’ll ask about school like Ryan. When I talked it out, he said he wanted to ‘be the first kid to raise his hand to get a question right.’ So, I incorporated a lot of trivial pursuit type games into our day, and he loves it.

I also use that as an indication that he’s ready to do more ‘structured’ things, like classes at the Zoo, Science Museum, community center, etc.

I love the things he asked to do. :)

Our Science Experiment Yesterday

For his birthday, Iain got a science kit from my MIL. It was a safe choice because the kids likes making “potions” and such so I promised him that we’d do something from it yesterday morning. After looking through the book that came with the kit, Iain selected an experiment that involved burning a candle […]

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